{"id":3624,"date":"2017-02-08T15:15:21","date_gmt":"2017-02-08T14:15:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/?p=3624"},"modified":"2017-02-08T15:15:21","modified_gmt":"2017-02-08T14:15:21","slug":"francais-entretien-avec-albert-meige-ceo-et-enchanteur-presans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/2017\/02\/08\/francais-entretien-avec-albert-meige-ceo-et-enchanteur-presans\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Albert Meige, CEO and Enchanter @ Presans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section bb_built=&#8221;1&#8243;][et_pb_row][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243;][et_pb_text]<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Albert Meige is the CEO of Presans and the Director of the EMBA Telecom School of Management. His entrepreneurial experience in the field of industrial innovation led him to formulate a bold vision of the evolution of the organization of work. According to him, the stakes are no longer open innovation, but the open organization.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<h3><em>Q: Can you tell us about the path that led you to become the\u00a0person you are today, CEO \/ Enchanter at Presans and Director of an EMBA program?<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>AM: First of all Jacques, let me tell you that I was not too excited about your proposal to interview me. On the one hand, despite the fact that I do a lot of public speaking, when I&#8217;m on stage, I put on my mask. Today, you ask me to remove it. To talk about me. It&#8217;s an exercise that makes me very uncomfortable. On the other hand, I&#8217;m still not convinced that it will interest anyone except my parents :-). Well, let&#8217;s go!<\/p>\n<p>There are three ways to tell the story: first of all, my 15 years working as an innovator, from different positions and perspectives: first upstream, in basic and applied research in the field of plasma physics. Then, at the end of 2008, as part of an entrepreneurial adventure, Presans. And finally, through the projects carried out for our clients, I have also integrated the point of view of the\u00a0large industrial groups.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3779 alignleft\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5.jpg\" alt=\"Albert Meige 5\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5.jpg 300w, \/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5-200x300.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>A second way of looking at things is my quest to better understand the world in which I live and in which I evolve, which will always remain an exploration, from\u00a0peak to peak: Presans&#8217; work\u00a0is closely tied to\u00a0expertise; therefore, I was able to deepen the nature of this process. That&#8217;s what led me to confront the question of innovation management, then the evolution of innovation management, and finally the disruptive trends and survival strategies of companies that these trends abut. And all of this has consequences for the shape of organizations, which leads me to focus on the companies themselves and on the image that we have of a company \u2014on the interactions between companies and the people who make them. up. At the beginning of my learning process, there are intuitions that I do not know how to express, which forces me to look for information. This is what makes me move toward an increasingly global perspective, which integrates more and more economy and politics.<\/p>\n<p>The third facet that explains my career is my impertinent self-taught side, unappreciated by my teachers. I have always followed my instinct, I believe it is also a path to excellence. But, at a certain point, I could not bring myself to learn the things that bored me. Hence, also, my quest for diplomas and excellence, to compensate for the anxiety, even the metaphysical doubt that my temper often causes me! I work a lot by following my passions, which are often distant from each other, but which I will irresistibly seek to connect. My oldest passion is magic, long reserved for a\u00a0milieu into which it is necessary to be initiated, and with which I keep friendships: Gerard Majax, Arturo Brachetti, R\u00e9mi Larrousse, etc. I also\u00a0borrow from\u00a0my first entrepreneurial adventure, and the conviction that it is the people who count in a field who have the most complete vision, the most &#8220;meta.&#8221; Then comes my passion for the underground, again a domain once reserved for a small world of initiates \u2014 a reality that the digital disruption did not fail to shake up. And here too, I invested myself with passion, which led me to meet people who knew things, who had been circulating underground for decades: people we have already talked about on this blog, elsewhere, like <a href=\"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/2016\/02\/24\/straight-outta-maisons-alfort-xavier-niel\/\">Xavier Niel<\/a> (who does not hide it), or Gilles Thomas. These passions are connected: magic is the art of surprising, marveling, enchanting, it is a key for the business world. The underground reveals our passion for exploring new territories, which are sometimes just the opposite of territories that we falsely believe we know .<\/p>\n<div id=\"gt-res-c\" class=\"g-unit\">\n<div id=\"gt-res-p\">\n<div id=\"gt-res-data\">\n<div id=\"gt-res-wrap\">\n<div id=\"gt-res-content\">\n<div id=\"gt-res-dir-ctr\" class=\"trans-verified-button-small\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p><span id=\"result_box\" class=\"\" lang=\"en\">I have long wondered why I did not fit in the usual boxes.\u00a0Or why from\u00a0kindergarten on my teachers found me &#8220;disconcerting&#8221; or &#8220;strange.&#8221; I came to understand that this was related to my introverted and curious nature.\u00a0I think I&#8217;m one of those <a href=\"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/2016\/10\/02\/how-much-multipotentiality-does-innovation-need\/\">multipotential people<\/a> \u2014 those people who have had the impression that they\u00a0don&#8217;t\u00a0fit into any boxes since they were little. And so I think it&#8217;s not by accident that I ended up working in\u00a0innovation, where the task is to see links that most people do not see.\u00a0This is the positive part; there are also disadvantages.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"\">As for the EMBA, it is a project that on the thematic level largely converges with what I already do in Presans: a happy opportunity that I\u00a0get to experience as something great.M<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3><em>Q: How do you reconcile so many activities?<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>AM: I am sometimes told that life is more than work. But for me my work is not a parenthesis, it is really a project of construction or permanent development that contributes greatly to my energy. I want to understand the world and have an impact on it. Of course, I work a lot \u2014 probably 60 hours a week, but that does not prevent\u00a0taking very dispersed breaks &#8230; Holidays are a way to get tired differently, to change the ideas by varying our activity. So, how do I go about things? I can only talk about what works for me: the organization. The computer revolution has been a blessing for me. I have an inexorable need to structure, structure, structure &#8230; visible disorder is a source of anxiety, because it refers to the part of disorder that is in me! And finally, I&#8217;m not alone. One of my keys is to find people who are smarter than\u00a0I am and work with them. They are the ones who make my ideas intelligible.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Q: What is the central message you want to convey about innovation?<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>The field of innovation imperatively\u00a0demands that we have a vision of &#8220;meta&#8221; things, that we do not stick with the idea of\u00a0innovation. We must understand that what is decisive is not to see things in terms of open innovation, because the\u00a0issue is open organizations. Open innovation is dead, long live open organizations. All of the evolutionary processes that I have captured in my book come from deep causes whose consequences in fact go much further than the question of bringing innovative products to the market. So my main message is that we are at the dawn of a new form of organization.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Q: What is your vision for Presans today?<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>The vision is this:\u00a0for 15 years, a series of violent and rapid disruptions\u00a0have been shaking up all value chains, leading to the emergence of new forms of organization with flattened hierarchies,\u00a0a model that first appeared in digital startups. What characterizes these structures is the reduction by a factor of two or three of the hierarchical layers compared to traditional companies, and fundamentally, the ability to mobilize internal and external talents, on demand. And so established businesses are now looking to incorporate these features. It&#8217;s a question of competitive survival. At the heart of the new dominant form of organization, there is, in reality, the notion of staff on demand. The key organizational\u00a0ability is to be able to create teams of talents on demand. And Presans&#8217; vision is to make our customers able to do just that. This is our reason for being, our answer to the question of why? (Simon Sinek) The new organizations have another common point: they all have a &#8220;massive transformative purpose&#8221; (MTP) that does not describe what they do, but rather provides the big reason that federates both internal and external collaborators. This is an ultra-important dimension when it comes to bonding internal and external talent together. And so, at Presans, we will do things that fit into this vision.<\/p>\n<h3><em>Q: Who are your heroes?<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>My heroes are in two camps. On the one hand, atypical entrepreneurs, the self-taught: Xavier Niel, Henri Seydoux, <a href=\"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/2016\/08\/31\/think-really-big-elon-musk\/\">Elon Musk<\/a>. Not very original, but true, since they inspire me. Steve Jobs, of course. On the other side, artists, writers. The irreplaceable Michael Jackson: do we imagine Michael Jackson in\u00a0sweatpants buying his bread? No.\u00a0He was a star like we no longer see. And the irreplaceable Michel Houellebecq: someone inspiring,\u00a0whom we will have to talk about again in this blog.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_post_nav _builder_version=&#8221;3.14&#8243; prev_text=&#8221;Previous article&#8221; next_text=&#8221;Next article&#8221; in_same_term=&#8221;on&#8221; background_color=&#8221;#3d59a1&#8243; title_font=&#8221;|800|||||||&#8221; title_text_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; title_font_size=&#8221;15px&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;10px|10px|10px|10px&#8221; border_radii=&#8221;on|5px|5px|5px|5px&#8221; border_width_all=&#8221;1px&#8221; border_color_all=&#8221;#3d59a1&#8243; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;30px|||&#8221; global_module=&#8221;8506&#8243; \/][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"et_pb_row et_pb_row_0 et_pb_row_empty\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_pb_text et_pb_text_0  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div> Albert Meige is the CEO of Presans and the Director of the EMBA Telecom School of Management. His entrepreneurial experience in the field of industrial innovation led him to formulate a bold vision of the evolution of the organization of work. According to him, the stakes are no longer open innovation, but the open [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":3778,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"<p><em><strong>Albert Meige est le CEO de Presans et le Directeur de L'EMBA Telecom Ecole de Management. Son exp\u00e9rience d'entrepreneur dans le domaine de l'innovation industrielle le conduit \u00e0 formuler une vision audacieuse de l'\u00e9volution de l'organisation du travail. Selon lui, l'enjeu montant n'est plus l'innovation ouverte, mais bien l'organisation ouverte.<\/strong><\/em><\/p><h3><em>Peux-tu nous parler du parcours qui t'as conduit \u00e0 devenir celui que\u00a0tu es aujourd'hui, CEO \/ Enchanteur de Presans et Directeur d'EMBA? <\/em><\/h3><p>Tout d'abord Jacques, laisse moi te dire que je n'\u00e9tais pas trop chaud quant \u00e0 ta proposition de m'interviewer. D'une part, malgr\u00e9 le fait que je fasse pas mal de public speaking, lorsque je suis sur sc\u00e8ne, je mets mon masque. Aujourd'hui, tu me demandes de l'enlever. De parler de moi. C'est un exercice qui me mets tr\u00e8s mal \u00e0 l'aise. D'autre part, je ne suis toujours pas convaincu que cela int\u00e9ressera qui que ce soit \u00e0 part mes parents :-). Bref! Allons-y!<\/p><p>Il y trois\u00a0fa\u00e7ons de raconter mon parcours : il y a d'abord mes\u00a015 ans pass\u00e9s dans l'innovation, \u00e0 partir de positions et d'optiques diff\u00e9rentes : d'abord tr\u00e8s en amont, dans la recherche fondamentale et appliqu\u00e9e dans le domaine de la physique des plasmas. Puis, fin 2008, dans le cadre d'une aventure entrepreneuriale, Presans. Et enfin, \u00e0 travers les projets men\u00e9s pour nos clients, j'ai aussi int\u00e9gr\u00e9 le point de vue des grands groupes industriels.<\/p><p><a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5.jpg\"><img class=\"size-full wp-image-3779 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Albert-Meige-5.jpg\" alt=\"Albert Meige 5\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" \/><\/a>Une deuxi\u00e8me mani\u00e8re de voir les choses, c'est ma qu\u00eate pour mieux comprendre le monde dans lequel je vis et dans lequel j'\u00e9volue, qui restera toujours une exploration de proche en proche, de montagne en montagne : le m\u00e9tier de Presans ayant fort \u00e0 voir avec l'expertise, j'ai pu approfondir la nature de ce processus. C'est ce qui m'a conduit \u00e0 me confronter \u00e0 la question du management de l'innovation, puis \u00e0 l'\u00e9volution du management de l'innovation, aux grandes tendances disruptives et aux strat\u00e9gies de survie des entreprises que ces tendances bousculent. Et tout cela \u00e0 des cons\u00e9quences sur la forme des organisations, ce qui m'am\u00e8ne \u00e0 concentrer mon regard sur les entreprises elles-m\u00eames et sur la notion que nous avons de l'entreprise, sur les interactions entre les entreprises et les personnes qui les constituent. Au d\u00e9part de mon processus d'apprentissage, il y a des intuitions que je ne sais pas bien formuler, ce qui me force \u00e0 chercher de l'information. C'est cela qui me fait avancer vers une perspective de plus en plus globale, qui int\u00e8gre de plus en plus l'\u00e9conomie et la politique.<\/p><p>La troisi\u00e8me facette qui explique mon\u00a0parcours, c'est mon c\u00f4t\u00e9 autodidacte impertinent, peu appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 par mes professeurs. J'ai toujours suivi mon instinct, je crois que cela constitue aussi une voie vers l'excellence. Mais, du coup, je n'ai jamais pu me forcer \u00e0 apprendre les trucs qui m'ennuyaient. D'o\u00f9, \u00e9galement, ma qu\u00eate des dipl\u00f4mes et de l'excellence, pour compenser l'angoisse, voire le doute m\u00e9taphysique que me cause souvent mon temp\u00e9rament! Je fonctionne beaucoup par passions, souvent \u00e9loign\u00e9es les unes des autres, mais que je vais irr\u00e9sistiblement chercher \u00e0 connecter. Ma passion la plus ancienne est la magie, longtemps r\u00e9serv\u00e9e \u00e0 un monde dans lequel il faut \u00eatre initi\u00e9, et avec lequel je conserve des amiti\u00e9s : G\u00e9rard Majax, Arturo Brachetti, <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/05\/30\/interview-with-two-wizards-albert-meige-remi-larrousse\/\">R\u00e9mi Larrousse<\/a>\u00a0etc. J'en retire par ailleurs ma premi\u00e8re aventure entrepreneuriale, et la conviction que ce sont les gens qui comptent dans un domaine qui en poss\u00e8dent la vision la plus compl\u00e8te, la plus \"meta\". Ensuite vient ma passion pour les <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/10\/19\/presans-raout-2016-go-deep-or-go-home\/\">souterrains<\/a>, l\u00e0 aussi domaine jadis r\u00e9serv\u00e9 \u00e0 un petit monde d'experts \u2014 une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 que la disruption digitale n'a pas manqu\u00e9 de chambouler. Et l\u00e0 aussi, je me suis investi avec passion, ce qui m'a amen\u00e9 \u00e0 rencontrer des gens qui savaient des choses, qui parcouraient les souterrains depuis des dizaines d'ann\u00e9es : des gens dont nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 parl\u00e9 sur ce blog, d'ailleurs, comme <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/02\/24\/straight-outta-maisons-alfort-xavier-niel\/\">Xavier Niel<\/a> (qui ne s'en cache pas), ou Gilles Thomas. Ces passions sont connect\u00e9es : la magie, c'est l'art de surprendre, d'\u00e9merveiller, d'enchanter, c'est une cl\u00e9 pour le monde des affaires ; les souterrains r\u00e9v\u00e8lent notre passion \u00e0 tous de l'exploration de nouveaux territoires, qui ne sont parfois que l'envers des territoires que nous croyons faussement conna\u00eetre.<\/p><p>Je me suis longtemps\u00a0demand\u00e9 pourquoi je ne rentrais pas dans les cases habituelles. Ou pourquoi depuis le CP mes enseignants me trouvaient \"d\u00e9concertant\" ou \"\u00e9trange\". J'ai fini par comprendre que cela \u00e9tait li\u00e9 \u00e0 mon caract\u00e8re introverti et curieux. Je crois que je fais partie de ces gens\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/fr\/2016\/10\/02\/how-much-multipotentiality-does-innovation-need\/\">multipotentiels<\/a>\u00a0(ces gens qui ont l'impression de mal rentrer dans les cases depuis qu'ils sont petits), et donc\u00a0je pense que ce n'est pas par accident que si je me retrouve dans l'innovation, o\u00f9 il s'agit fondamentalement de voir des liens que la majorit\u00e9 des gens ne voient pas. C'est la partie positive, il y a aussi des inconv\u00e9nients.<\/p><p>Quant \u00e0 l'<a href=\"http:\/\/telecom.fullfabric.com\/emba\">EMBA<\/a>, c'est un projet qui sur le plan th\u00e9matique converge largement avec ce que je fais d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 Presans : une opportunit\u00e9 heureuse que je vis comme quelque chose de formidable.<\/p><h3><em>Comment fais-tu pour concilier tant d'activit\u00e9s? <\/em><\/h3><p>On me dit parfois qu'il n'y a pas que le travail dans la vie. Mais pour moi le travail n'est pas une parenth\u00e8se, c'est vraiment un projet de construction ou de d\u00e9veloppement permanent qui contribue fortement \u00e0 m'animer. Je veux comprendre le monde et avoir un impact sur lui. Certes, je travaille beaucoup \u2013 sans doute 60 heures par semaine, mais cela n'emp\u00eache pas de faire des coupures vraiment d\u00e9connect\u00e9es... Les vacances sont un moyen de se fatiguer diff\u00e9remment, de se changer les id\u00e9es en variant notre activit\u00e9. Comment faire alors? Je ne peux parler que de ce qui marche pour moi : l'organisation. La r\u00e9volution informatique a \u00e9t\u00e9 une b\u00e9n\u00e9diction pour moi. J'ai un besoin inexorable de structurer, structurer, structurer... le d\u00e9sordre visible est une source d'angoisse, car il\u00a0renvoie \u00e0 la part de d\u00e9sordre qu'il y a en moi! Et enfin, je ne suis pas tout seul. Une de mes cl\u00e9s\u00a0est de trouver des gens plus intelligents que moi et de travailler avec eux. Ce sont eux qui rendent mes id\u00e9es intelligibles.<\/p><h3><em>Quel est le message central que tu veux faire passer \u00e0 propos de l'innovation? <\/em><\/h3><p>Le domaine de l'innovation impose imp\u00e9rativement d'avoir une vision \"meta\" des choses, de ne pas en rester \u00e0 l'innovation, justement. Il faut comprendre que ce qui est d\u00e9cisif, ce n'est pas de voir les choses en termes d'open innovation, car l'enjeu, ce sont les organisations ouvertes. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hbrfrance.fr\/chroniques-experts\/2017\/01\/14257-linnovation-ouverte-est-morte-vive-lorganisation-ouverte\/\">Open innovation is dead, long live open organizations<\/a>. Toutes les \u00e9volutions que j'ai captur\u00e9es dans mon livre proviennent de causes profondes dont les cons\u00e9quences vont en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 beaucoup plus loin que la question de mettre sur le march\u00e9 des produits innovants. Donc mon message principal, c'est que <strong>nous sommes \u00e0 l'aube d'une nouvelle forme d'organisation<\/strong>.<\/p><h3><em>Quelle est ta vision pour Presans, aujourd'hui?<\/em><\/h3><p>La vision, c'est que \u00a0depuis 15 ans, un ensemble de disruptions violent\nes et rapides bousculent toutes les cha\u00eenes de valeur, conduisant \u00e0 l'\u00e9mergence de nouvelles formes d'organisation aux hi\u00e9rarchies aplaties, sur le mod\u00e8le de ce qui est d'abord apparu dans les startups du num\u00e9rique. Ce qui caract\u00e9rise ces structures, c'est la r\u00e9duction par un facteur de deux ou trois des couches hi\u00e9rarchiques par rapport aux entreprises traditionnelles, et, fondamentalement, la capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 mobiliser des talents internes et externes, <em>\u00e0 la demande<\/em>. Et donc les entreprises \u00e9tablies cherchent maintenant \u00e0 int\u00e9grer ces caract\u00e9ristiques. C'est une question de survie comp\u00e9titive. Au coeur de la nouvelle forme dominante d'organisation, il y a, en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, la notion de\u00a0<em>staff on demand<\/em>. La capacit\u00e9 organisationnelle cl\u00e9, c'est de pouvoir cr\u00e9er des \u00e9quipes de talents \u00e0 la demande. Et la vision de Presans, c'est de rendre nos clients capables de faire exactement cela. C'est notre raison d'\u00eatre, notre r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 la question du <em>pourquoi? (<\/em>Simon Sinek). Les nouvelles organisation poss\u00e8dent un autre point commun : elles ont toutes un \"<em>massive transformative purpose<\/em>\" (MTP) qui ne d\u00e9crit pas ce qu'elles font mais la grande raison qui f\u00e9d\u00e8re \u00e0 la fois les collaborateurs internes et externes. C'est une dimension ultra-importante quand il s'agit d'embarquer ensemble des talents internes et externes \u00e0 l'entreprise. Et donc, \u00e0 Presans, on va faire des choses qui s'inscrivent dans cette vision.<\/p><h3><em>Quels sont tes h\u00e9ros?<\/em><\/h3><p>J'ai mes h\u00e9ros dans une note \u00e0 part. D'un c\u00f4t\u00e9, les entrepreneurs atypiques, les autodidactes, les <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/02\/24\/straight-outta-maisons-alfort-xavier-niel\/\">Xavier Niel<\/a>, les <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2015\/09\/20\/parrot-story-of-a-visionary-entrepreneur-and-a-young-genius-building-drones-in-his-garage\/\">Henri Seydoux<\/a>, les <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/08\/31\/think-really-big-elon-musk\/\">Elon Musk<\/a>. Peu original, mais vrai, puisqu'ils m'inspirent. <a href=\"http:\/\/open-organization.com\/2016\/05\/31\/wizards-of-disruption\/\">Steve Jobs<\/a>, \u00e9videmment. De l'autre c\u00f4t\u00e9, des artistes, des \u00e9crivains. L'irrempla\u00e7able Michael Jackson : imagine-t-on Michael Jackson en surv\u00eatement achetant sa baguette? Non. C'est une star comme on n'en fait plus. Et l'irrempla\u00e7able <a href=\"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/fr\/tag\/michel-houellebecq\/\">Michel Houellebecq<\/a> : quelqu'un d'inspirant, dont nous aurons\u00a0\u00e0 reparler dans ce blog.<\/p>","_et_gb_content_width":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[67,239,517,1050,1150,1349,1555,1757,1770],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3624"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3624"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3624\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3778"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3624"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3624"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/open-organization.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3624"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}